Comments on: A Penny For The Old Guy http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html Dispatches from the South Bank of the Mersey; politics, sport, fimbles. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:26:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Bloggerheads http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4336 Bloggerheads Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:34 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4336 <strong>Paul Staines: And we're done.</strong> It's 4pm. And we're done. [This post will get bigger in a bit.] UPDATE (4:30pm) Paul Staines (aka 'Guido Fawkes') was told to put up or shut up... and he chose the latter option. Didn't stop Dizzy from trying to... Paul Staines: And we’re done.

It’s 4pm. And we’re done. [This post will get bigger in a bit.] UPDATE (4:30pm) Paul Staines (aka ‘Guido Fawkes’) was told to put up or shut up… and he chose the latter option. Didn’t stop Dizzy from trying to…

]]> By: Tim Ireland http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4271 Tim Ireland Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:38:59 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4271 Thank you, Quinn. Thank you, Quinn.

]]> By: Small Beds and Large Bears http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4248 Small Beds and Large Bears Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:02:13 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4248 <strong>Buck up, Tim, or: what a total webring</strong> [...] ignored them the long term. But now one of the other parties in the dispute, cartoonist Matt Buck, has appeared above the parapet again to add himself to the headcount: this would have arguably not have happened in the absence of [...] Buck up, Tim, or: what a total webring

[...] ignored them the long term. But now one of the other parties in the dispute, cartoonist Matt Buck, has appeared above the parapet again to add himself to the headcount: this would have arguably not have happened in the absence of [...]

]]> By: Quinn http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4237 Quinn Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:41:57 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4237 Matt, you make a very good point, and re-reading that line I now realise that I sound far more dismissive of Tim's original allegations than I meant too. Certainly I agree that image theft and bandwidth leeching are wrong, and I wholly supported Tim in his initial points, but it was Guido's reaction in issuing legal threats that really struck me as outrageous. But then I’m not a professional artist, and so while I wholeheartedly sympathise with your position I suppose I am unable to fully appreciate what it must be like to be in your shoes; certainly as a 100% amateur on this blog I don’t really give a damn who takes what from here. I can though more easily empathise with someone getting a threatening letter as a result of something they have written, and so it was that element that struck me with far more force. So, I guess all of the above means that in all honesty it is strictly true to say that I find Tim’s original allegations to be the least interesting aspect of the whole affair, but that doesn’t mean that they are of no interest, or that they are not important issues, and I apologise if I cack-handedly gave you that impression. Matt, you make a very good point, and re-reading that line I now realise that I sound far more dismissive of Tim’s original allegations than I meant too. Certainly I agree that image theft and bandwidth leeching are wrong, and I wholly supported Tim in his initial points, but it was Guido’s reaction in issuing legal threats that really struck me as outrageous.

But then I’m not a professional artist, and so while I wholeheartedly sympathise with your position I suppose I am unable to fully appreciate what it must be like to be in your shoes; certainly as a 100% amateur on this blog I don’t really give a damn who takes what from here. I can though more easily empathise with someone getting a threatening letter as a result of something they have written, and so it was that element that struck me with far more force.

So, I guess all of the above means that in all honesty it is strictly true to say that I find Tim’s original allegations to be the least interesting aspect of the whole affair, but that doesn’t mean that they are of no interest, or that they are not important issues, and I apologise if I cack-handedly gave you that impression.

]]> By: matt buck http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4234 matt buck Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:00:46 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4234 Hello Quinn, I enjoyed your post on this - and only one quibble with it. I am going to quote you back at youself - sorry. > I’m not bothering to repeat them here because they are the least interesting facet of the affair. I'm not sure about this assertion myself because some of the things which are happening regarding the free and easy use of people's images digitally have a direct effect on the economic livelihoods of people who actually make images for a living. I am, of course, biased, as I do this. I will be writing, or trying to, about the economic consequences of free digital ditribution before, perhaps, the idea of paid image makers dies out. Regards, Matt Buck Hello Quinn,
I enjoyed your post on this - and only one quibble with it. I am going to quote you back at youself - sorry.

> I’m not bothering to repeat them here because they are the least interesting facet of the affair.

I’m not sure about this assertion myself because some of the things which are happening regarding the free and easy use of people’s images digitally have a direct effect on the economic livelihoods of people who actually make images for a living. I am, of course, biased, as I do this. I will be writing, or trying to, about the economic consequences of free digital ditribution before, perhaps, the idea of paid image makers dies out.
Regards,
Matt Buck

]]> By: Quinn http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4226 Quinn Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:17:17 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4226 Oh, if more people read this stuff I would probably become too self-conscious to write anything again. But thanks for your kind comment. Oh, if more people read this stuff I would probably become too self-conscious to write anything again. But thanks for your kind comment.

]]> By: Paul Linford http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4224 Paul Linford Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:23:33 +0000 http://www.obscurer.co.uk/2008/02/a-penny-for-the-old-guy.html#comment-4224 Perhaps more people should read it. It's rather good. Perhaps more people should read it. It’s rather good.

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